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Ecclesiastes 9:5: “the dead do not know anything…for their memory is forgotten.” - Are human souls unconscious after death?
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS ARGUMENT:
BIBLICAL RESPONSE: Evangelical Christians often assume that what is important to them (doctrinally) is also just as important to the Jehovah’s Witness. This is a grave mistake and can leave one feeling very frustrated after a conversation with a Witness. The doctrines of death and the resurrection are essential to the Jehovah’s Witness for they are in some way or another involved in almost every other Watchtower doctrine.When a Witness presents Ecclesiastes 9:5 and others to support their belief of annihilation, at first glance, it can truly catch one off guard. But as with every text that is presented there are many factors that have to be taken into consideration: Author, writing style, point of view, context, the milieu in which it was written, etc. As one takes such influential factors into account, the meaning and purpose of the text will become clear. Solomon’s demeanor, in modern terminology would be best described at this time, as a secular humanist in:
The Watchtower is using Solomon’s writings to substantiate their doctrine of annihilation, but after taking all of these things into account it becomes clear that Solomon is not a proper authority to appeal to on the topic of the afterlife. The question then arises, is Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10, specifically talking about the afterlife? In answer, first, we would say that Solomon, being a worldly person at this point in time, is speaking from his worldview which was llimited to that of the present moment of his existence. This is opposed to a Christian outlook concerning life and death that gives one a proper perspective on how to understand the passage. Secondly, Solomon is not talking about the afterlife or an annihilation but is speaking about the physical corpses of those who have died and are “in the grave” (see Eccl. 9:10). Thus, contextually speaking, Dr. Norman Geisler remarks,
“No knowledge” has to do with no knowledge of that which occurs “under the sun” (a Hebraism for “on earth”). Thirdly, Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 also states regarding the dead that: “...nor have they any longer a reward… neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.” If the Watchtower Society were to be consistent in its application of this passage, the organization would have to agree with the second part of this passage and disregard its teachings concerning the “rewards” that Jehovah God will grant to His followers during the resurrection. However, this is completely contrary to Watchtower theology and Christian theology concerning the resurrection. For the Watchtower Society admits:
Thus, if these verses are talking about the condition of life after death, then logically, we would have to conclude that there is no resurrection or “reward” in an future earthly Paradise nor in Heaven. Such reasoning, is clearly rejected by the numerous Scriptures that speak of the future rewards that await the followers of Christ on resurrection day. In summary, Ecclesiastes 9:5 refers to man in relation to life here on earth and is not talking about life after this one. Article by Mark Butterfield II FOR MORE INFORMATION SEE:
========= 1. All Scripture quotations are taken from the New American Standard Bible. |
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